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	<title>Comments on: Exploring fan and group engagement on Facebook</title>
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	<description>Exploring How Mass Collaboration Changes Everything</description>
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		<title>By: Denis Hancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - absolutely! You can contact me at dhancock (at) ngenera.com to set up a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; absolutely! You can contact me at dhancock (at) ngenera.com to set up a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/11/12/exploring-fan-and-group-engagement-on-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-215839</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am excited about this because I want to convince my organization that we do not need a Fan page, because we already have so many user-organized Groups already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited about this because I want to convince my organization that we do not need a Fan page, because we already have so many user-organized Groups already!</p>
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		<title>By: John Seebeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denis,

Would love to talk more about this with you. Can we schedule a phone call?

John Seebeck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denis,</p>
<p>Would love to talk more about this with you. Can we schedule a phone call?</p>
<p>John Seebeck</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook&#8217;s conundrum as they try to woo marketers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook&#8217;s conundrum as they try to woo marketers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and potentially draw in new customers. But at the same time, as I&#8217;ve referred to in some earlier posts, many established companies have their own fan pages (and associated groups) with thousands [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and potentially draw in new customers. But at the same time, as I&#8217;ve referred to in some earlier posts, many established companies have their own fan pages (and associated groups) with thousands [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naumi Haque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naumi Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great initiative Denis. Some feedback:

So, I understand that we&#039;re working with imperfect information, but one of the problems I see is that the distinction between fan pages and group pages is not always apparent.  So, say for example, I&#039;m a member of a group called &quot;I Love the NBA,&quot; would I also then join the NBA fan page? If not, should I still be counted as a fan? What if my group covered a sub-category of the main brand, i.e. &quot;I Love NBA Cheerleaders&quot;? What then?

A lot of comapnies have applications too, so I think from a branding perspective users of a branded application should factor into both the fan and the activity metrics. 

Finally, there&#039;s the Facebook Lexicon which tracks how much something is mentioned on people&#039;s walls, which would also be a good metric around buzz. 
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/lexicon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.facebook.com/lexicon&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great initiative Denis. Some feedback:</p>
<p>So, I understand that we&#8217;re working with imperfect information, but one of the problems I see is that the distinction between fan pages and group pages is not always apparent.  So, say for example, I&#8217;m a member of a group called &#8220;I Love the NBA,&#8221; would I also then join the NBA fan page? If not, should I still be counted as a fan? What if my group covered a sub-category of the main brand, i.e. &#8220;I Love NBA Cheerleaders&#8221;? What then?</p>
<p>A lot of comapnies have applications too, so I think from a branding perspective users of a branded application should factor into both the fan and the activity metrics. </p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s the Facebook Lexicon which tracks how much something is mentioned on people&#8217;s walls, which would also be a good metric around buzz.<br />
(<a href="http://www.facebook.com/lexicon" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/lexicon</a>)</p>
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