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		<title>By: Naumi</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-458780</link>
		<dc:creator>Naumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just noticed this great article by Ray Wang (mentioned as Analyst of the Year in the chart above) on how to construct the collaborative analyst firm of the future. Also some good Q&amp;A in the comments section.  http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2010/07/24/personal-log-the-7-tenets-of-building-a-star-analyst-firm/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just noticed this great article by Ray Wang (mentioned as Analyst of the Year in the chart above) on how to construct the collaborative analyst firm of the future. Also some good Q&amp;A in the comments section.  <a href="http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2010/07/24/personal-log-the-7-tenets-of-building-a-star-analyst-firm/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2010/07/24/personal-log-the-7-tenets-of-building-a-star-analyst-firm/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Who needs analyst firms anyways? &#171; Not Another Framework</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-437135</link>
		<dc:creator>Who needs analyst firms anyways? &#171; Not Another Framework</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Naumi    The following was originally posted on Wikinomics.com on June 13, 2008 &#8211; click here to see full comment [...]</description>
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		<title>By: buy nfl jerseys</title>
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		<dc:creator>buy nfl jerseys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To us at Wikibon, it’s all about the community first. Our CIO/IT advisors asked us to stick to a few principles: 1) stay true to the user community; 2) treat us as peers, not leads and 3) don’t be vendor whores. The rest just seems to fall in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To us at Wikibon, it’s all about the community first. Our CIO/IT advisors asked us to stick to a few principles: 1) stay true to the user community; 2) treat us as peers, not leads and 3) don’t be vendor whores. The rest just seems to fall in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#8211; The Real Truth behind Fake Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-389719</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#8211; The Real Truth behind Fake Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tech is as world-changing as it is confusing. Many an analyst has made quite a living saying &#8220;this is the next big deal, you need to learn it and you need my help.&#8221; The truth is that for many companies traditional communications (face to face, phone, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tech is as world-changing as it is confusing. Many an analyst has made quite a living saying &#8220;this is the next big deal, you need to learn it and you need my help.&#8221; The truth is that for many companies traditional communications (face to face, phone, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kenniston</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-226791</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kenniston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really is a great topic.  Having worked as an analyst before I feel like I can say that business can be very &quot;mafia&quot; like.  What has always been interesting to me is analysts commenting on technologies that they have never used, nor have any real hands on understanding of.  Not only with the product but the current state of the challenges of IT.  I think the wikibon guys have it right - peers helping peers.

I think these companies can monetize the business by offering other value added services that they can&#039;t get today - a lot of companies hire consultants to help with their business and I think this will be no different - it will just force that community (the analyst community) to rise higher, be smarter and offer better servcies - at a more cost effective rate and leverage tools - such as the web (2.0) to be more efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is a great topic.  Having worked as an analyst before I feel like I can say that business can be very &#8220;mafia&#8221; like.  What has always been interesting to me is analysts commenting on technologies that they have never used, nor have any real hands on understanding of.  Not only with the product but the current state of the challenges of IT.  I think the wikibon guys have it right &#8211; peers helping peers.</p>
<p>I think these companies can monetize the business by offering other value added services that they can&#8217;t get today &#8211; a lot of companies hire consultants to help with their business and I think this will be no different &#8211; it will just force that community (the analyst community) to rise higher, be smarter and offer better servcies &#8211; at a more cost effective rate and leverage tools &#8211; such as the web (2.0) to be more efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Vellante</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-188075</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Vellante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just catching up on my summer reading-- wow! Thanks for the comments everyone. To us at Wikibon, it&#039;s all about the community first. Our CIO/IT advisors asked us to stick to a few principles: 1) stay true to the user community; 2) treat us as peers, not leads and 3) don&#039;t be vendor whores. The rest just seems to fall in place. 

When we first started Wikibon we set out to apply a true open source collaborative research model and we really have very few if any caveats to the use of our research. As far as transparency, one can always hit the history tab and see who wrote what, when. 

In my experience this has meant we seem to be able to produce large volumes of very high quality research at very low cost and in far less time than when we were at IDC, Meta and Gartner.

Will this disrupt the established $3B research business? I don&#039;t know the answer. What I do know is we&#039;re having way more fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just catching up on my summer reading&#8211; wow! Thanks for the comments everyone. To us at Wikibon, it&#8217;s all about the community first. Our CIO/IT advisors asked us to stick to a few principles: 1) stay true to the user community; 2) treat us as peers, not leads and 3) don&#8217;t be vendor whores. The rest just seems to fall in place. </p>
<p>When we first started Wikibon we set out to apply a true open source collaborative research model and we really have very few if any caveats to the use of our research. As far as transparency, one can always hit the history tab and see who wrote what, when. </p>
<p>In my experience this has meant we seem to be able to produce large volumes of very high quality research at very low cost and in far less time than when we were at IDC, Meta and Gartner.</p>
<p>Will this disrupt the established $3B research business? I don&#8217;t know the answer. What I do know is we&#8217;re having way more fun!</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; RedMonk: We&#8217;re Not Perfect, But We Try</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-165042</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; RedMonk: We&#8217;re Not Perfect, But We Try</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - unwittingly or no. Ignorance is not an adequate excuse, especially for me of all people. But when I promised to address this situation back in June, I meant [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; unwittingly or no. Ignorance is not an adequate excuse, especially for me of all people. But when I promised to address this situation back in June, I meant [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vishal</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-151438</link>
		<dc:creator>Vishal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone ( A gartner analyst no less )  once told me that Analyst reports are like Sausages ... you have an appetite for them till the time you realize how they are made !!

Cheers
Vishal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone ( A gartner analyst no less )  once told me that Analyst reports are like Sausages &#8230; you have an appetite for them till the time you realize how they are made !!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Vishal</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Geek</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-146348</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Major firms are not doomed any more than Microsoft is seriously threatened by Linux.

Companies buy Operating Systems so they have some place to go if it fails.

People pay consulting firms for the &quot;insurance value&quot; of being able to claim &quot;credible research,&quot; and thus be able to share responsibility for the business decisions that result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major firms are not doomed any more than Microsoft is seriously threatened by Linux.</p>
<p>Companies buy Operating Systems so they have some place to go if it fails.</p>
<p>People pay consulting firms for the &#8220;insurance value&#8221; of being able to claim &#8220;credible research,&#8221; and thus be able to share responsibility for the business decisions that result.</p>
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		<title>By: La innovación en las empresas de informes y análisis en la era de Internet</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-142808</link>
		<dc:creator>La innovación en las empresas de informes y análisis en la era de Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#124; Wikinomics   trackback    ¿Recomendarías este post?      Más noticias sobre: Empresas, Sectores  Tags: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-06-27 &#124; Daily EM</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-140575</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-27 &#124; Daily EM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wikinomics » Blog Archive » Who needs analyst firms anyways? online research reports and white papers – like a great deal of other digital content – are becoming commoditized. Open source analyst firms understand this and are disrupting the market by offering basic content for free and shifting revenue models t (tags: analytics analysts OpenSource technology blog article Investing) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wikinomics » Blog Archive » Who needs analyst firms anyways? online research reports and white papers – like a great deal of other digital content – are becoming commoditized. Open source analyst firms understand this and are disrupting the market by offering basic content for free and shifting revenue models t (tags: analytics analysts OpenSource technology blog article Investing) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Vile</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-139138</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Vile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like a good dose of generalisation and dogma to fuel the debate ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like a good dose of generalisation and dogma to fuel the debate <img src='http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Scott Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-138784</link>
		<dc:creator>David Scott Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disclaimer: I was a former VP, E-Business Strategies at the META Group prior to its acquisition by Gartner.

There are two types of analyst firms:  Those with a lot of end user clients and the vendor whores.  (I&#039;m being quite blunt about this.)  Let&#039;s just say that Gartner and Forrester are in the former category and many/most others are in the, uh, other category.  I can even tell you a story of what happened when I was a senior exec at a large vendor (this was prior to joining META; my CV points to either Oracle, Microsoft or Samsung):  I wrote a report, one of the larger analyst firms -- a typical vendor whore -- put it into their format, and then we (at the vendor firm) distributed it as Gospel, citing that it was a report by a third-party analyst firm.  This kind of nonsense happens all the time.

I&#039;d also say, anecdotally, that firms will get movement in the right direction on a graphical representation (gee, could this be some sort of 2x2 matrix?) if they spend more $$$ on that particular analyst firm.  Sad, but seemingly true.

This being said, those with a lot of end user clients tend to be the better firms.  They hear things, things that can help an end user in negotiating a deal.  I can cite a deal involving a large indirect procurement software vendor whereby I saved one of our end user clients (a Fortune 500 company) over $1 million during their contract negotiations.  Genius?  Nope.  I simply knew what others had paid for the same system.

Analysts tend to be a relatively smart bunch, but their real value is in seeing product roadmaps ... just about ALL pertinent roadmaps.  This is invaluable info for end users -- end users get marketing fluff and lies from many/most of their software vendors.  The analyst firms can assist in making decisions based upon a broader universe of information.

And, of course, there&#039;s another key value in engaging one of the larger analyst firms:  A person/firm to blame for an IT procurement decision gone south.  CIOs need a scapegoat -- and having Gartner or Forrester as a scapegoat doesn&#039;t hurt.

&quot;Open source&quot; firms are not a bad thing, as long as they&#039;re not vendor whores.  This is critical.  As an end user, NEVER, EVER use a firm that is a vendor whore.  OK, there is one firm with mostly vendor clients that I highly recommend:  AMR.  But they&#039;re the exception to this rule.

So, when evaluating a firm, make sure that they have a lot of end user clients.  If they don&#039;t, run as fast as you can from them.  

Also, I&#039;d give boutiques a shot, but with the same caveat.  Boutiques can dig very deep, not get caught in a service director&#039;s or CEO&#039;s ego trip.  Matter of fact, I&#039;d go with boutiques with end user clients, even if they&#039;re small.  See Deal Architect, as one example.

BTW, the next great era in analyst firms:  Green/clean tech analyst firms.  My day job these days is in the solar sector and there&#039;s a huge need for analysts servicing the renewables sector.  Lux is the best, but might be even more expensive than Gartner.  Anyway, there&#039;s a lot of room in the renewables space, with Lux being the Gartner of green tech -- but without a lot of other competitors.  There is EER, Greentech Media, NanoMarkets, a few others, but Lux is truly the Gartner of green tech.  But keep an eye on EER (especially for wind) and Greentech (across renewables).  And NanoMarkets owns the TOP market, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer: I was a former VP, E-Business Strategies at the META Group prior to its acquisition by Gartner.</p>
<p>There are two types of analyst firms:  Those with a lot of end user clients and the vendor whores.  (I&#8217;m being quite blunt about this.)  Let&#8217;s just say that Gartner and Forrester are in the former category and many/most others are in the, uh, other category.  I can even tell you a story of what happened when I was a senior exec at a large vendor (this was prior to joining META; my CV points to either Oracle, Microsoft or Samsung):  I wrote a report, one of the larger analyst firms &#8212; a typical vendor whore &#8212; put it into their format, and then we (at the vendor firm) distributed it as Gospel, citing that it was a report by a third-party analyst firm.  This kind of nonsense happens all the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also say, anecdotally, that firms will get movement in the right direction on a graphical representation (gee, could this be some sort of 2&#215;2 matrix?) if they spend more $$$ on that particular analyst firm.  Sad, but seemingly true.</p>
<p>This being said, those with a lot of end user clients tend to be the better firms.  They hear things, things that can help an end user in negotiating a deal.  I can cite a deal involving a large indirect procurement software vendor whereby I saved one of our end user clients (a Fortune 500 company) over $1 million during their contract negotiations.  Genius?  Nope.  I simply knew what others had paid for the same system.</p>
<p>Analysts tend to be a relatively smart bunch, but their real value is in seeing product roadmaps &#8230; just about ALL pertinent roadmaps.  This is invaluable info for end users &#8212; end users get marketing fluff and lies from many/most of their software vendors.  The analyst firms can assist in making decisions based upon a broader universe of information.</p>
<p>And, of course, there&#8217;s another key value in engaging one of the larger analyst firms:  A person/firm to blame for an IT procurement decision gone south.  CIOs need a scapegoat &#8212; and having Gartner or Forrester as a scapegoat doesn&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Open source&#8221; firms are not a bad thing, as long as they&#8217;re not vendor whores.  This is critical.  As an end user, NEVER, EVER use a firm that is a vendor whore.  OK, there is one firm with mostly vendor clients that I highly recommend:  AMR.  But they&#8217;re the exception to this rule.</p>
<p>So, when evaluating a firm, make sure that they have a lot of end user clients.  If they don&#8217;t, run as fast as you can from them.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d give boutiques a shot, but with the same caveat.  Boutiques can dig very deep, not get caught in a service director&#8217;s or CEO&#8217;s ego trip.  Matter of fact, I&#8217;d go with boutiques with end user clients, even if they&#8217;re small.  See Deal Architect, as one example.</p>
<p>BTW, the next great era in analyst firms:  Green/clean tech analyst firms.  My day job these days is in the solar sector and there&#8217;s a huge need for analysts servicing the renewables sector.  Lux is the best, but might be even more expensive than Gartner.  Anyway, there&#8217;s a lot of room in the renewables space, with Lux being the Gartner of green tech &#8212; but without a lot of other competitors.  There is EER, Greentech Media, NanoMarkets, a few others, but Lux is truly the Gartner of green tech.  But keep an eye on EER (especially for wind) and Greentech (across renewables).  And NanoMarkets owns the TOP market, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-138688</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the revenue going into 2.0 firms is from vendors for commissioning specific research themes. That might mean sponsoring individual papers but it could also mean, for example, saying that a vendor sponsors a stream of research in SOA or some other theme. I realise that there&#039;s a big different between commissioning a specific work and commissioning activities in a wide area. However, patrons are patrons.

As a result, the topics being explored by most vendor-funded firms are on themes of interest to vendors. Some firms have made a conscious choice to balance the users&#039; and vendors&#039; interests. Redmonk and Freeform Dynamics should be praised for such choices. However, that is not the case for many, or perhaps most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the revenue going into 2.0 firms is from vendors for commissioning specific research themes. That might mean sponsoring individual papers but it could also mean, for example, saying that a vendor sponsors a stream of research in SOA or some other theme. I realise that there&#8217;s a big different between commissioning a specific work and commissioning activities in a wide area. However, patrons are patrons.</p>
<p>As a result, the topics being explored by most vendor-funded firms are on themes of interest to vendors. Some firms have made a conscious choice to balance the users&#8217; and vendors&#8217; interests. Redmonk and Freeform Dynamics should be praised for such choices. However, that is not the case for many, or perhaps most.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very interesting. Is somewhat related to the true opportunity I saw at FASTforward08. Looking at what major financial content providers could do (e.g. Dow Jones, Thomson Reuters) by simply bypassing IT services by delivering &#039;finished&#039; content/services, made me realize just how easily the entire consulting/service model could be disintermediated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very interesting. Is somewhat related to the true opportunity I saw at FASTforward08. Looking at what major financial content providers could do (e.g. Dow Jones, Thomson Reuters) by simply bypassing IT services by delivering &#8216;finished&#8217; content/services, made me realize just how easily the entire consulting/service model could be disintermediated.</p>
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		<title>By: Carter Lusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter Lusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One additional note -- there is a significant amount of Gartner and Forrester research available for free on the &#039;Net. These are typically Magic Quadrants and Wave research notes, though other types of research notes are also available. However, Gartner and Forrester still got top dollar for these research notes that you and I can read for free, because vendors paid tens of thousands of dollars (depending of the duration and type of reprint) for reprint rights to support marketing and sales efforts. 

I did an experiment where I took the most recent 20 MQs and 20 Waves to see if I could find them easily on the Web. It was quite easy. Sometimes one would have to give the vendor your email addresses for marketing purposes, but if you wanted a $1,995 research note (yes, that is what the G-men are charging for a one-off MQ note) for free, then an email address is a small price to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One additional note &#8212; there is a significant amount of Gartner and Forrester research available for free on the &#8216;Net. These are typically Magic Quadrants and Wave research notes, though other types of research notes are also available. However, Gartner and Forrester still got top dollar for these research notes that you and I can read for free, because vendors paid tens of thousands of dollars (depending of the duration and type of reprint) for reprint rights to support marketing and sales efforts. </p>
<p>I did an experiment where I took the most recent 20 MQs and 20 Waves to see if I could find them easily on the Web. It was quite easy. Sometimes one would have to give the vendor your email addresses for marketing purposes, but if you wanted a $1,995 research note (yes, that is what the G-men are charging for a one-off MQ note) for free, then an email address is a small price to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Naumi Haque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naumi Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the additional insights George. Nice to hear from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the additional insights George. Nice to hear from you!</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Join the conversation on &#8216;Who needs analyst firms anyways?&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-136095</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Join the conversation on &#8216;Who needs analyst firms anyways?&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who needs analyst firms anyways? Another Smart Response to &quot;The Dumbest Generation&quot;Obama&#039;s YouTube Secret: Longer VideosIf you&#039;re going to be naked, you better be buff - A video diaryMore on Obama and wikinomics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who needs analyst firms anyways? Another Smart Response to &#8220;The Dumbest Generation&#8221;Obama&#8217;s YouTube Secret: Longer VideosIf you&#8217;re going to be naked, you better be buff &#8211; A video diaryMore on Obama and wikinomics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naumi Haque</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-136047</link>
		<dc:creator>Naumi Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear the doom-and-gloom argument. Sure the title of the post is meant to draw readership - I&#039;m a blogger fighting against a deluge of competitive online content. As Michael Coté notes, &quot;Nothing like yelling &#039;you’re all dead!&#039; to call in comments from those who’re still (very much) alive.&quot; But I don&#039;t think the argument is without merit or that the comparison with music and publishing industries is a stretch. Clearly both music and publishing are not &quot;dead&quot; industries, but their business models are being seriously threatened. If you ask me, the same is true for analyst firms. 

As for Barbara&#039;s comments, I agree with &quot;Guest,&quot; I&#039;ve never had a Gartner subscription, but I have read many a Gartner report over the past six years. Same for Forrester reports, the McKinsey Quarterly&#039;s Premium content, and many other paid subscriptions. People e-mail me stuff, what can I say. It&#039;s still not YouTube or BitTorrent proportions, but in the end, I don&#039;t think it matters as much as it does in the music or publishing industry because, unlike songs, movies, or books, the content we&#039;re talking about is becoming commoditized. So, in my opinion, it doesn&#039;t matter that if I read a Forrester report or a free report from some other highly regarded &quot;open source&quot; analyst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear the doom-and-gloom argument. Sure the title of the post is meant to draw readership &#8211; I&#8217;m a blogger fighting against a deluge of competitive online content. As Michael Coté notes, &#8220;Nothing like yelling &#8216;you’re all dead!&#8217; to call in comments from those who’re still (very much) alive.&#8221; But I don&#8217;t think the argument is without merit or that the comparison with music and publishing industries is a stretch. Clearly both music and publishing are not &#8220;dead&#8221; industries, but their business models are being seriously threatened. If you ask me, the same is true for analyst firms. </p>
<p>As for Barbara&#8217;s comments, I agree with &#8220;Guest,&#8221; I&#8217;ve never had a Gartner subscription, but I have read many a Gartner report over the past six years. Same for Forrester reports, the McKinsey Quarterly&#8217;s Premium content, and many other paid subscriptions. People e-mail me stuff, what can I say. It&#8217;s still not YouTube or BitTorrent proportions, but in the end, I don&#8217;t think it matters as much as it does in the music or publishing industry because, unlike songs, movies, or books, the content we&#8217;re talking about is becoming commoditized. So, in my opinion, it doesn&#8217;t matter that if I read a Forrester report or a free report from some other highly regarded &#8220;open source&#8221; analyst.</p>
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		<title>By: George Goodall</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Goodall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thread Naumi. The conversation is certainly enlightening. I wanted to make a quick comment on that old ITRG data set that you mentioned. It certainly pointed to the importance of personal relationships. I remember slicing that data based on project success as determined by on-time completion, on-schedule completion, benefits attained, etc. The strongest positive differentiator between successful projects and unsuccessful projects was the influence of IT analyst firms. Enterprises that used analyst firms attained higher project success than those that didn&#039;t. We never published those results because it seemed self-laudatory and our customers already use analysis firms! The finding might, however, inform the current discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thread Naumi. The conversation is certainly enlightening. I wanted to make a quick comment on that old ITRG data set that you mentioned. It certainly pointed to the importance of personal relationships. I remember slicing that data based on project success as determined by on-time completion, on-schedule completion, benefits attained, etc. The strongest positive differentiator between successful projects and unsuccessful projects was the influence of IT analyst firms. Enterprises that used analyst firms attained higher project success than those that didn&#8217;t. We never published those results because it seemed self-laudatory and our customers already use analysis firms! The finding might, however, inform the current discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara is quite valid when she cautions that one need not paint gloom-and-doom to cheer for reinvention. However, she seems far to confident in her other assertion. 

How do we know unauthorized sharing of analyst reports isn&#039;t on the uptick? We live in an age where the consumer&#039;s drive for convenience routinely tramples over intellectual property rights. Can we can safely assume that people infected with this spirit will somehow respect our rights?

Perhaps industry analysis is shared differently (e.g., e-mailed from peer to peer rather than posted on-line) to avoid obvious detection. How do we measure this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara is quite valid when she cautions that one need not paint gloom-and-doom to cheer for reinvention. However, she seems far to confident in her other assertion. </p>
<p>How do we know unauthorized sharing of analyst reports isn&#8217;t on the uptick? We live in an age where the consumer&#8217;s drive for convenience routinely tramples over intellectual property rights. Can we can safely assume that people infected with this spirit will somehow respect our rights?</p>
<p>Perhaps industry analysis is shared differently (e.g., e-mailed from peer to peer rather than posted on-line) to avoid obvious detection. How do we measure this?</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; links for 2008-06-17</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; links for 2008-06-17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who needs analyst firms anyways? Nothing like yelling &#8220;you&#8217;re all dead!&#8221; to call in comments from those who&#8217;re still (very much) alive. (tags: ego analysts iir redmonk) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: age of conan gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>age of conan gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a popular misconception. It certainly can be, but this is by no means a defining characteristic of what is or is not open source. There are a great many projects, MySQL being perhaps the most notable example, that are not collectively authored but rather the product of a single entity or individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a popular misconception. It certainly can be, but this is by no means a defining characteristic of what is or is not open source. There are a great many projects, MySQL being perhaps the most notable example, that are not collectively authored but rather the product of a single entity or individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Trainer</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-135783</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Trainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naumi,

My firm is new; founded in April by me.  The material on the website is freely available &amp; I am not in the pocket of any vendor.  Will I offer subscription services for users and vendors?  You bet!  Why?  Primarily becuse of the reason you mention in your original article:  Web 2.0...not all things need be free, nor is all free information correct.  Having worked in the vendor community for 25 years before becoming an analyst in 2005, I can tell you that many analysts don&#039;t actually understand the technology they cover.  Users should trust analysts who have actually worked with products; designed them, installed them, fixed them under great pressure from users.  That kind of experience is priceless and valuable to users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naumi,</p>
<p>My firm is new; founded in April by me.  The material on the website is freely available &amp; I am not in the pocket of any vendor.  Will I offer subscription services for users and vendors?  You bet!  Why?  Primarily becuse of the reason you mention in your original article:  Web 2.0&#8230;not all things need be free, nor is all free information correct.  Having worked in the vendor community for 25 years before becoming an analyst in 2005, I can tell you that many analysts don&#8217;t actually understand the technology they cover.  Users should trust analysts who have actually worked with products; designed them, installed them, fixed them under great pressure from users.  That kind of experience is priceless and valuable to users.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara French</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/13/who-needs-analyst-firms-anyways/comment-page-1/#comment-135771</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara French</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naumi,

You started this thread with the position that the industry analyst business is about to follow the fate of the music and publishing business.  It&#039;s worth noting that in the analyst business, this parallel would require a massive amount of Gartner, Forrester and IDC content being copied and shared freely as unlicensed content among research consumers - thus undermining the financial stablity and licensing policies of these giant firms.

That&#039;s not happening.  Unauthorized file sharing is not on a notable uptick in the analyst business.

You can discuss ideas for a reinvention of the &quot;analyst business&quot; without contriving pending doom as the impetus. Innovation is a good thing in any business.  In its own right. Just to make the world a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naumi,</p>
<p>You started this thread with the position that the industry analyst business is about to follow the fate of the music and publishing business.  It&#8217;s worth noting that in the analyst business, this parallel would require a massive amount of Gartner, Forrester and IDC content being copied and shared freely as unlicensed content among research consumers &#8211; thus undermining the financial stablity and licensing policies of these giant firms.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not happening.  Unauthorized file sharing is not on a notable uptick in the analyst business.</p>
<p>You can discuss ideas for a reinvention of the &#8220;analyst business&#8221; without contriving pending doom as the impetus. Innovation is a good thing in any business.  In its own right. Just to make the world a better place.</p>
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