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		<title>By: Vcare Call Centers India (p) Ltd.</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-202039</link>
		<dc:creator>Vcare Call Centers India (p) Ltd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Naumi Haque you have raised a very good point that is about the ignorance of feedback front-line call center employees get for free from irate customers. I guess if in call centers will start looking on this point then lot of query will get resolved and then customer satisfaction will increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Naumi Haque you have raised a very good point that is about the ignorance of feedback front-line call center employees get for free from irate customers. I guess if in call centers will start looking on this point then lot of query will get resolved and then customer satisfaction will increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wikinomics in call centers part II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wikinomics in call centers part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 20th, 2008, 10:38pm  In my previous post, “Why Call Centers Need Wikinomics,” I argued that call centers—the most underutilized resources in the enterprise—are the low [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 20th, 2008, 10:38pm  In my previous post, “Why Call Centers Need Wikinomics,” I argued that call centers—the most underutilized resources in the enterprise—are the low [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-135992</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is kind of why (whenever possible) I do walk into a mom-and-pop shop.

From a customer&#039;s perspective, the big business option will usually win on price by a small margin, but once you factor in the headaches and the generally useless service, then the small business always wins. Probably there&#039;s some exceptions to that rule, for banking I go with someone big (hoping to get safety, not service).

When you stumble into a mom-and-pop shop that can&#039;t cut it (and it happens all the time), don&#039;t panic, just go to the one next door, easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is kind of why (whenever possible) I do walk into a mom-and-pop shop.</p>
<p>From a customer&#8217;s perspective, the big business option will usually win on price by a small margin, but once you factor in the headaches and the generally useless service, then the small business always wins. Probably there&#8217;s some exceptions to that rule, for banking I go with someone big (hoping to get safety, not service).</p>
<p>When you stumble into a mom-and-pop shop that can&#8217;t cut it (and it happens all the time), don&#8217;t panic, just go to the one next door, easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Naumi Haque</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-135620</link>
		<dc:creator>Naumi Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Tel. I wonder what the world would look like if we started valuing relationship skills and customer service people were actually treated as vital assets to business success. I envision a much happier place where you actually want to engage with call centers; where feedback from frontline employees makes its way up the chain of command, as opposed to the other way around; and where the people you have access to in a business actually have the ability to serve you as opposed to simply offer you canned solutions.  It&#039;s kind of like the experience you get when you walk into a mom-and-pop shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Tel. I wonder what the world would look like if we started valuing relationship skills and customer service people were actually treated as vital assets to business success. I envision a much happier place where you actually want to engage with call centers; where feedback from frontline employees makes its way up the chain of command, as opposed to the other way around; and where the people you have access to in a business actually have the ability to serve you as opposed to simply offer you canned solutions.  It&#8217;s kind of like the experience you get when you walk into a mom-and-pop shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-135598</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen a similar situation:

Big enterprise companies will hire new people (at low wage) and put them into the &quot;lowest rank&quot; position in the business. It used to be the mail room, but these days inevitably that &quot;low ranked&quot; position is the helpdesk or the customer service center. Employees work hard to get OUT of customer service and into a real job at a &quot;higher ranked&quot; position in the business.

The result is that the entire public impression of the business is based on the most junior employees who don&#039;t enjoy the work they are doing and are getting low wages. Thus, management give these people strict scripts to work from and fire them at the drop of a hat, resulting in low morale and absolutely no incentive to attempt any real problem-solving.

It makes you wonder why the employees most critical to customer loyalty are also the worst treated, least experienced and least respected people in the business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a similar situation:</p>
<p>Big enterprise companies will hire new people (at low wage) and put them into the &#8220;lowest rank&#8221; position in the business. It used to be the mail room, but these days inevitably that &#8220;low ranked&#8221; position is the helpdesk or the customer service center. Employees work hard to get OUT of customer service and into a real job at a &#8220;higher ranked&#8221; position in the business.</p>
<p>The result is that the entire public impression of the business is based on the most junior employees who don&#8217;t enjoy the work they are doing and are getting low wages. Thus, management give these people strict scripts to work from and fire them at the drop of a hat, resulting in low morale and absolutely no incentive to attempt any real problem-solving.</p>
<p>It makes you wonder why the employees most critical to customer loyalty are also the worst treated, least experienced and least respected people in the business?</p>
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		<title>By: shell smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>shell smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been waiting for someone to put all this together in a coherent article, because I have thought these things many times in a non-coherent way. Especially the fact that scripts are bad!  Call centers could actually be a useful resource if they treated each call unique based on how the &quot;vibe&quot; of the conversation is going.  I think these intelligent people get so stuck to the script, that they forget how to be intelligent people.  I actually think this is a problem that has been bleeding to the customer service industry as well.  I came across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deliverandmeasure.com/&quot; title=&quot;book&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book&lt;/a&gt; that talks about things like this.  My favorite topic -getting back to the basics.  We need to ditch the automated computer system, and hire people that are perceptive into their customers needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been waiting for someone to put all this together in a coherent article, because I have thought these things many times in a non-coherent way. Especially the fact that scripts are bad!  Call centers could actually be a useful resource if they treated each call unique based on how the &#8220;vibe&#8221; of the conversation is going.  I think these intelligent people get so stuck to the script, that they forget how to be intelligent people.  I actually think this is a problem that has been bleeding to the customer service industry as well.  I came across <a href="http://www.deliverandmeasure.com/" title="book" rel="nofollow">book</a> that talks about things like this.  My favorite topic -getting back to the basics.  We need to ditch the automated computer system, and hire people that are perceptive into their customers needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-112109</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had read Wikinomics last year and really appreciated the insights 
and forward thinking it presented.  I noticed, however, the book 
focused on Web 2.0 experience along with how the power of 
collaboration works in other industries, but being in the customer 
service sector (namely Call Centres), I&#039;m interested in your thoughts as to how Wikinomics will play out in this sector.

I have been in the Call Centre industry for the past 12 years and I 
believe major changes are coming based on similar theories you have 
outlined in Wikinomics.  I&#039;ve had a variety of analytical to Director 
roles, specializing in how Call Centres are planned (based on customer 
calling patterns, marketing plans, etc.), scheduling agents, and 
managing to an expect service leve( eg. 80% of calls answered within 
20 seconds.)
 
In having many conversation with others in the retail and Call Centre 
industy, I would appreciate your thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had read Wikinomics last year and really appreciated the insights<br />
and forward thinking it presented.  I noticed, however, the book<br />
focused on Web 2.0 experience along with how the power of<br />
collaboration works in other industries, but being in the customer<br />
service sector (namely Call Centres), I&#8217;m interested in your thoughts as to how Wikinomics will play out in this sector.</p>
<p>I have been in the Call Centre industry for the past 12 years and I<br />
believe major changes are coming based on similar theories you have<br />
outlined in Wikinomics.  I&#8217;ve had a variety of analytical to Director<br />
roles, specializing in how Call Centres are planned (based on customer<br />
calling patterns, marketing plans, etc.), scheduling agents, and<br />
managing to an expect service leve( eg. 80% of calls answered within<br />
20 seconds.)</p>
<p>In having many conversation with others in the retail and Call Centre<br />
industy, I would appreciate your thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Dover</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-89447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: I guess where they’ve got me is with sports, because that is one of the few content pieces where downloading isn’t really an option – you have to watch it live, in real-time. 

I wonder if there should be a word for the specific anxiety you feel when you have recorded a sports event and want to make it home to view it before you hear anything about the score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: I guess where they’ve got me is with sports, because that is one of the few content pieces where downloading isn’t really an option – you have to watch it live, in real-time. </p>
<p>I wonder if there should be a word for the specific anxiety you feel when you have recorded a sports event and want to make it home to view it before you hear anything about the score.</p>
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		<title>By: Naumi Haque</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-89143</link>
		<dc:creator>Naumi Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tony for the insights from Socialtext! It’s great to hear that at least some forward-thinking companies are starting to use wikis in call center environments. 

J27srl, I agree this is difficult for the TV industry, but the fact is consumers are driving this change. By downloading only what they want online (via torrents and other services), consumers are bypassing the cable networks and getting very customizable experiences (see David Cameron’s post “Online piracy’s value is not that it’s free, but it’s flexible” http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2007/12/18/online-piracys-value-is-not-that-it-is-free/). It’s an on-demand world. I guess where they’ve got me is with sports, because that is one of the few content pieces where downloading isn’t really an option – you have to watch it live, in real-time. 

Jenn, great point about incentives. For commissioned sales reps, you’re right; time is money. Creating incentives around collaboration is always difficult, (but not impossible). I’m thinking something along the lines of ratings and points for contributions, relationship-building, and team performance. You run into the problem facing communities like the SAP Developer Network, where contributors are incented towards quantity of responses over quality, but I think this can be mitigated. Or maybe the model is broken. Perhaps the traditional notion of sales commissions is inappropriate in a world where contact center employees move up into the realm of knowledge workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tony for the insights from Socialtext! It’s great to hear that at least some forward-thinking companies are starting to use wikis in call center environments. </p>
<p>J27srl, I agree this is difficult for the TV industry, but the fact is consumers are driving this change. By downloading only what they want online (via torrents and other services), consumers are bypassing the cable networks and getting very customizable experiences (see David Cameron’s post “Online piracy’s value is not that it’s free, but it’s flexible” <a href="http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2007/12/18/online-piracys-value-is-not-that-it-is-free/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2007/12/18/online-piracys-value-is-not-that-it-is-free/</a>). It’s an on-demand world. I guess where they’ve got me is with sports, because that is one of the few content pieces where downloading isn’t really an option – you have to watch it live, in real-time. </p>
<p>Jenn, great point about incentives. For commissioned sales reps, you’re right; time is money. Creating incentives around collaboration is always difficult, (but not impossible). I’m thinking something along the lines of ratings and points for contributions, relationship-building, and team performance. You run into the problem facing communities like the SAP Developer Network, where contributors are incented towards quantity of responses over quality, but I think this can be mitigated. Or maybe the model is broken. Perhaps the traditional notion of sales commissions is inappropriate in a world where contact center employees move up into the realm of knowledge workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Durley</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-88767</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Durley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to comment by j27srl:

I see your point...but I&#039;m still not going to watch those other channels, even if I am forced to buy them.

This is an extremely interesting article and I strongly agree that customer service agents are a vastly untapped resource in most companies.  I do think customer surveys are still important, since they hopefully capture feedback from both satisfied and unsatisfied customers.

Creating a wiki tool that CSR&#039;s will use to capture ad hoc feedback from customers presents a challenge, since my experience is that selling agents in particular are very resistant to activities they see as &quot;time sucks&quot;.  Anything that reduces their time available to sell, and therefore commissions, is unwelcomed.  Something like the incident resolution wiki tool that Tony mentions would be a boon to many call centers, I&#039;m sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to comment by j27srl:</p>
<p>I see your point&#8230;but I&#8217;m still not going to watch those other channels, even if I am forced to buy them.</p>
<p>This is an extremely interesting article and I strongly agree that customer service agents are a vastly untapped resource in most companies.  I do think customer surveys are still important, since they hopefully capture feedback from both satisfied and unsatisfied customers.</p>
<p>Creating a wiki tool that CSR&#8217;s will use to capture ad hoc feedback from customers presents a challenge, since my experience is that selling agents in particular are very resistant to activities they see as &#8220;time sucks&#8221;.  Anything that reduces their time available to sell, and therefore commissions, is unwelcomed.  Something like the incident resolution wiki tool that Tony mentions would be a boon to many call centers, I&#8217;m sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Hagai Fleiman</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-88740</link>
		<dc:creator>Hagai Fleiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - its very surprising to see that few companies are giving front line call centre employees more authority and more tools to collaborate effectively. I also had a recent incident with a very large media company who couldn&#039;t coordinate the installation of internet and cable at the same time even though this company is providing both services. 

Having previously worked as a call centre data analyst for a company that has not yet adopted the wiki toolset and where front line call centre employees had to wait for formal reports to diagnose an issue instead of simply working together and sharing new knowledge effectively, I could see first hand the potential time savings and increased customer satisfaction that such collaboration would provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; its very surprising to see that few companies are giving front line call centre employees more authority and more tools to collaborate effectively. I also had a recent incident with a very large media company who couldn&#8217;t coordinate the installation of internet and cable at the same time even though this company is providing both services. </p>
<p>Having previously worked as a call centre data analyst for a company that has not yet adopted the wiki toolset and where front line call centre employees had to wait for formal reports to diagnose an issue instead of simply working together and sharing new knowledge effectively, I could see first hand the potential time savings and increased customer satisfaction that such collaboration would provide.</p>
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		<title>By: j27srl</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-88427</link>
		<dc:creator>j27srl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately &quot;A la carte&quot; programming is not quite as easy as it might seem. I&#039;ve worked in the TV industry for many years so know from experience. The bottom line is we&#039;d all want the premium channels and the others would go to rack and ruin... then the prices of the premium channels would escalate as they try to compensate from the loss of revenue from those 995 channels out of 1000 that you never watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately &#8220;A la carte&#8221; programming is not quite as easy as it might seem. I&#8217;ve worked in the TV industry for many years so know from experience. The bottom line is we&#8217;d all want the premium channels and the others would go to rack and ruin&#8230; then the prices of the premium channels would escalate as they try to compensate from the loss of revenue from those 995 channels out of 1000 that you never watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Baggio</title>
		<link>http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/01/27/why-call-centers-need-wikinomics/comment-page-1/#comment-88387</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Baggio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with your observation on how companies are not leveraging the information that front-line agents learn from speaking with customers. As the practice leader for Support Solutions at Socialtext, an enterprise wiki company, we have found that wiki&#039;s are a great tool within the call center for many purposes.

Some of our customers use our wiki to capture the &quot;voice of the customer&quot; from front line agents and provide this feedback to product management.  Others use the tool to capture new incidents and enable agents and others to collaborate to define resolutions quickly and efficiently to solve problems not yet known or resident in back-end knowledge bases.  This assists greatly in reducing call handling times and increases the capacity of the call center since incidents are readily available for the agents to view and provide for their customers.  This is a form of Knowledge Centered Support, capturing knowledge JIT.

We have also seen support groups embracing the concept of opening up the wiki to external customers to leverage the collective wisdom of their end users to contribute knowledge and help solve problems for the community.

Unfortunately, service and support groups tend to not be very open and guard their knowledge closely. This mind set needs to change as consumers today are more open and willing to be part of the solution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with your observation on how companies are not leveraging the information that front-line agents learn from speaking with customers. As the practice leader for Support Solutions at Socialtext, an enterprise wiki company, we have found that wiki&#8217;s are a great tool within the call center for many purposes.</p>
<p>Some of our customers use our wiki to capture the &#8220;voice of the customer&#8221; from front line agents and provide this feedback to product management.  Others use the tool to capture new incidents and enable agents and others to collaborate to define resolutions quickly and efficiently to solve problems not yet known or resident in back-end knowledge bases.  This assists greatly in reducing call handling times and increases the capacity of the call center since incidents are readily available for the agents to view and provide for their customers.  This is a form of Knowledge Centered Support, capturing knowledge JIT.</p>
<p>We have also seen support groups embracing the concept of opening up the wiki to external customers to leverage the collective wisdom of their end users to contribute knowledge and help solve problems for the community.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, service and support groups tend to not be very open and guard their knowledge closely. This mind set needs to change as consumers today are more open and willing to be part of the solution!</p>
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